Barry's Genealogy Diary

This online genealogical diary is hosted by Barry T. Self. It is primarily for information pertaining to the SELF surname, more particularly for descendants of John J. and Lydia Avaline Waters Self, who were married in Union County, GA in 1851. Barry Self is the SELF proclaimed family genealogist and historian, having spent over 20 years researching this Self line. This diary is dedicated to preserving and sharing the findings of his research.

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Location: Madisonville, Tennessee, United States

I am married to a wonderful and sweet wife, Svitlana, who is from Ukraine and we have a beautiful daughter, Lydia Elizabeth. I have worked in the funeral business since 1988 and thoroughly enjoy researching my family roots.

Sunday, May 04, 2008


This is the fifth story in series by Lucille Linton as told to her by her mother, Lila Self Hunt.

Missouri (actually spelled Mosurie) Whitmore was married to Columbus Cicero Self. Her brother,_______Whitmore got Harve Hartness' sister pregnant, and she had a baby. Whitmore would come ever so often and get the baby, take it to his mother's house to visit, then take the baby back to its mother. On a whim, she decided not to allow him to take the baby away again.

Whitmore sent her word that he would arrive on a certain day at a specified time for the purpose of taking the baby to keep permanently.

Harve got his gun and sat down in the middle of the house in front of the door to watch for Whitmore. When he saw the two Whitmore men coming on horseback, he began shooting at them. They whirled the horses around and started back the way they had come.

One of Harve's bullets found a vulnerable spot on the body of the baby's uncle, killing him instantly. The baby's daddy got away, leading the dead man's horse with his body draped over the saddle.

Harve was arrested on a murder charge and was put in jail. He belonged to a lodge whose members supported and spoke up for him at the trial. Because of their influence, Harve had to spend only a short portion of his sentence.

Sometime after this happening, Harve married Lude Self, a sister to Columbus Cicero Self.

The Whitmore family was quite well to do with extensive holdings in real estate in Georgia.

Mosurie Whitmore Self was the wife of Rev. C.C. Self. C.C. Self and John Simpson Self, Lila Hunt's father, were brothers. Also refer to the story Mildred Thomas wrote, located in the archives of this blog, concerning this event in the family history. Mildred told it a little differently.